Mr. Jekielek: One of the things that really strikes me when I think about this stuff is when you shut off areas of inquiry or the opportunity to have an open discussion about this question that you mentioned, that actually breeds the creation of all sorts of conspiracy theories from wherever, and whatever political side, because people just don’t know. They know that what they’re seeing doesn’t look right. There’s only one narrative.
Dr. Malone: They’ve experienced something, their friends have experienced something, and yet they’re told they couldn’t have. And I agree. So I posted something on my old LinkedIn account that’s now deleted, that went viral for LinkedIn. It had done 25,000 likes, which for LinkedIn is a big deal. I got almost 6,000 people, but usually, there’s about 2000 people on my LinkedIn feed.
So this went viral. I posed the question, “What will happen to public trust in the public health system if it turns out that Ivermectin is safe and has therapeutic benefit and the vaccines turn out to not be perfectly safe?” It generated a blizzard of responses.
Now I elected not to add the third leg to that stool, which is the controversy about the lab leak hypothesis, which is another example that was shut down very hard and censored. Now it has come to the fore that there is some merit to that, as demonstrated by the current president seeking clear investigation on that.
If any two or three of those come to pass, and I think there’s a chance all three will, in my opinion, that’s just my opinion—where do we go from there in terms of public trust in the world public health system? I don’t know the answer. What I got back from people with this open-ended question was a lot of folks saying, “We can’t trust the government anymore. We can’t trust the World Health Organization.”
I’ve had a fear from the get-go with project Warp Speed in the vaccine development enterprise, as a vaccinologist. I had spent my whole career in vaccines. I literally invented mRNAs vaccine technology when I was 28. Before that, I was involved in AIDS vaccine development at UC Davis. My whole life, since 1983, has been focused on vaccines.
My fear has been with rushing this through, we would end up with problems. How can you not end up with problems if you cut corners and rush these things, particularly the safety issues? What would happen to the entire vaccine enterprise and pediatric vaccines, the fundamental bedrocks of public health.
If we basically validate the criticisms of those that have been labeled anti-vaxxers—and that’s kind of a pejorative over-simplification too, that term—we’re labeling and excluding a whole block of debate and discussion by labeling it that way.
But what if this validates what they’re saying about pharma and the FDA and the government playing fast and loose with lives with vaccines? I’m having people write me saying, “I’m not going to vaccinate my kids anymore. I can’t believe in this, this whole enterprise.”
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